The public sentiment regarding the US-Russia-Ukraine ceasefire negotiations is overwhelmingly negative, characterized by skepticism and criticism toward former President Trump's involvement. Many perceive Trump's actions as naive or self-serving, with an inability to effectively influence Putin, whom they believe has the upper hand. There is a prevailing feeling that Trump's deadlines and strategies are seen as empty, ineffective, and lacking credibility. The negotiations are widely viewed as performative and unlikely to achieve meaningful peace, with concerns about the US seeking strategic control and a distrust of both Trump's and Putin's intentions.

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Negotiating with Ukraine directly would acknowledge that Zelensky and Ukraine are equals and would undermine the entire justification for the Russian attack. Also, as an influential third party,  the US is in a position to make offers and leverage other factors that Ukraine is not in a position to offer.

Azdak66

Well, we've actualy done this more than once. The Camp David Accords (Israel-Egypt) and  the Dayton Agreement (Bosnia i Herzegovina) come to mind.

romulusnr

Neglecting any motives the Trump administration may have, it is quite normal for negotiations to end a war to go through, at least initially, an intermediary country.

CommitteeOfOne

Because we are the primary weapons dealer of the Alliance since WW2 and the dealer always sits at the table

SnooOwls6136

The Ukrainians want security guarantees from the west of some sorts, so that means there is some likelihood of the US being part of the agreement. Then it's reasonable to have them at the negotiation table.

Historical-Pen-7484

It’s extremely common for a third party to act as a mediator in talks between two warring countries.

neverseen_neverhear

Because the US was instrumental in supporting the war in the first place, supplying money and arms to Ukraine which would normally be seen as taking sides and making an enemy of Russia but the USA can't fight Russia directly as everyone's too scared of that. So of course the US can also pry into negotiations of ceasefire

Kfchoneychickensammi

Because in all likelihood, Putin is negotiating to end U.S. involvement, not to end the war…

jmfranklin515

The US is involved in this war, both as a supplier of weapons to Ukraine, and because the war started because Putin was trying to prevent Ukraine from joining a US-led military alliance and a US-led international trade regime.

NDaveT

This is how negotiations have always worked since war was a thing. A third party always does this.

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The USA is heavily involved lol. We are Ukraine’s primary supplier of weapons and they can’t even manufacture their own while the war rages.

This is basically a proxy war

oby100

Same reason that Israel and Palestine are negotiating with each other and there is an intermediary doing it

bigfrew

A mediator is always good in these situations.

Particular_Leg3292

Those wouldn’t be my first questions regarding US involvement in that war.

Spdoink

Us doesn’t want to pay anymore so they are saying to Ukraine take this deal or go under in a year.

gonnadietrying

It is very common throughout history to have a neutral third party nation as an intermediary for peace talks.

Consistent_Paper_629

several reasons. 

Ukraine is a much more democratic nation compared to Russia, and for years, Ukraine has been building closer ties to western nations and pulling away from Russia. Ukraine joining NATO is a major issue for Russia, and is a direct threat to their control of that area of the world. 

EU/NA both support Ukraine because allowing Russia to take Ukraine is going to destabilize the whole area and allow them to extend their influence so much further.

Russia is not USA's friend, and supporting the Ukraine-Russia war is one of the easiest wins for american politicians. They get to help weaken Russia's army and economy, they get to help build up an important future ally, and, they can even sell Ukraine older military equipment that was due to be replaced! And they dont even have to put a single pair of boots on the ground. 

The USA has a vested interest in Ukraine winning the war, and Russia (being the aggressor in this conflict) is never going to negotiate any ceasefire in good faith with russia. 

Just because its a foreign war, doesnt mean that other countries are not involved in some way.

The_Quackening

Because we are allowing them to fight the war.

The US and EU are the reason that Putin didn’t immediately take Kiev.

The US or EU brokering a peace deal is the only way that the war doesn’t continue or end with Putin controlling Ukraine.

Outside forces pushing the peace deal on Zelenskyy allows him to avoid culpability for losing as well.  Not that we should care, that dude is an autocrat just like Putin at this point.

somerandomguy1984

One, if the US decides it no longer wants to support Ukraine than this war is over. Second, it's not as if Ukraine is going to be the ones dictating to the US what it should do, so it's not essential to have Zelensky there.

redux44

Russia isn’t going to win. Ukraine isn’t going to win. Both parties cannot go back to their constituents and surrender. A third party brokering a deal between the 2 giving them both the opportunity to point the finger at the USA is what they need to end the war.

dmyles123

Cuz he knows Ukraine does heavily rely on US support but also he knows Trump equally has no morals.

Femininestatic

Because it helps to have an arbitrator in negotiations.

Cappdone

It's normal, especially for the US, however it's rather unusual for one side to find out about the talks via Twitter, instead of actually being included...

But Trump's links to Putin are well known, as is his dislike of Ukraine, heck Trump is extorting Ukraine as we speak. This is why Ukraine made a push the last few months, they knew Trump wouldn't be on their side, so they had to strengthen their position for when Trump inevitably caved and handed them over to Putin.

Realistic_Let3239

Sodamyte

US supplied weapons to Ukraine..zelensky is bff with the US

viper29000

AdamZapple1

Because zelensky doesn't have the power to broker the deal. What could he possibly do to force Putin to stop? Nothing. If it's between Russia and Ukraine, Russia gets whatever they want. 

adlcp

Its like a fighting couple who will not talk unless through a mediator.

Rbelkc

US presidents have been involved in peace talks with other nations since TR

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stiveooo

It’s historically normal to have a 3rd party negotiator

AgitatedMagazine4406

This is a smart question, dont't let any discourage you.

YokedJoke3500

In this case, trump wants the "rare earth minerals" in Ukraine and is bullying them into exchanging protection for minerals.  If they didn't have that for trade leverage, he would remain uninvolved or more more likely support his boyfriend putin

lkram489

I think Trump's an idiot but if he actually ends this war it would make Biden's administration look absolutely ridiculous

SakamotoTRX

The only people with the power to do something about it seeing as the EU is just twiddling their thumbs on it.

hitometootoo

When two sides can't agree on something, they will often bring in a third party to act as a mediator.

BlueRFR3100

After all the money we have poured into that war, it's the least they can do.

Imagine two children fighting and then ask yourself why they aren’t coming to the table to negotiate. Both sides don’t want to give in but if there is a third party involved both sides can somewhat blame the third party why they made the concessions that lead to peace.

The US can threaten to cut off funding to Ukraine and sanctions against Russia.

squidwurrd

Ukraine is a proxy. We (NATO / USA) are just using them, we don't actually give a shit about them.

Hattkake

Because like it or not, the US is the most powerful country in the world, and escalation in Russia's continuing invasion of countries they have no right to be in could lead the US and Russia into a direct confrontation that would be the end of us all.

I don't believe Trump is doing this entirely in good faith, but nor do I believe he's a "Russian puppet" because the more I read into this, the more it is clearly a Kremlin propaganda line - Putin is no where near powerful enough to influence an entire US election.

Trump only cares about himself, but if that means ending the war without Ukraine having to capitulate, so be it. 

I strongly dislike Trump politically, but in this situation his persona might be a good thing, he's unpredictable, childish, and makes wild and dangerous claims. It's the lesser of two evils, but I like to hope he's got the upper hand on Putin.

KeyLog256

Ukraine is holding off Russia because NATO feels like it. Of course the main member of NATO would be negotiating. Frankly, the war is unwinnable for Ukraine at this point anyway. Most of NATO doesn't want to get more involved and Ukraine just doesn't have the resources for it.

FunOptimal7980

too_many_shoes14

In order for a peace deal to be successful it needs to be guaranteed by outside parties who will enforce consequences on either side if the agreement isn't followed. Ukraine WANTS the US to participate in the negotiations in order to ensure Russia keeps their end of the bargain.

CaptCynicalPants

Ukraine is not equal partner to Russia. They will only negotiate with a country that could pose real threat to them. Ukraine is painful lesson, but it's harmless to Russia.

danrokk

Trump is after their rare Earth minerals, this is why he is negotiating with Zelenski. I don't know why he is after these materials, but this is why he wants the Gaza strip, too, from what I think I have understood.

Past-Afternoon1657

Why would we not be?  We've been funding and arming one of the sides in the war to keep it going, we might as well take a seat at the negotiating table too.

libra00

The US has just said its upto europe to do more to defend ourselves and they are going to concentrate on China, also they have conceded 2 negotiating points already (land and joining nato.) Can't the Europeans negotiate without the US and just cut them out?

dittohead007

Because without USA help Ukraine capitulates in weeks and without USA guarantees there can not be any peace in the region.

Plus USA is major factor in NATO, so without USA guarantees regarding Ukraine position in NATO there can not be any peace from Russian side, as this was one of the primary factors of starting the war.

EU is not a significant factor in this conflict, neither is Ukraine, as sad as it sounds for them.

That is just the fact of superpowers in the world, however we deny and fool ourselves at our own small importance.

The same would happen if there would be an invasion on Taiwan, China and US would be negotiating the ceasefire.

Va3V1ctis

You talk to the decision makers if you want real answers. Since the US is funding most of the Ukraine side we can make the decision to stop.

Any-Video4464

Putin disappeared after the 2012 elections. Nobody knows where he is. So it's not possible.

MoxFuelInMyTank

It's not a foreign war. It's a proxy war between the US and Russia. The US has provided hundreds of billions of dollars to support Ukraine's war effort. For context, Russia's military budget in 2021 was around 66 billion dollars.

WajihR

Because the US also helped negotiate last time, and it almost lasted for 24 years.

rapidtester

The US involved themselves because regardless of the specifics they are always interested in weakening russia (at least so far).

Of course any actual treaty would be digned by Zelenskyy, but he has no problem with strenghening his bargaining position by allowing others to get involved

Lawlcopt0r

There's nothing to negotiate between Ukraine and Russia.

Russia wants Ukraine.

Ukraine doesn't want to become Russia.

\-"Please stop attacking us"  
\-"No"  
\-"We give you 500 billion"  
\-"We will have your 500 billion either way and more"

USA is like bringing mom to settle the dispute:

\-"We can help you win this. Will you give me 500 billion worth of rare earth minerals if we do?"  
\-"Okay"  
\-"Ok mister Putin. Your choice, either you leave or we make you leave."  
\-"We leave if they let us keep the occupied territories"  
\-"Zelensky is this ok with you?"  
\-"No"  
\-"Come on Vladimir, you can't have the land. Get out!"  
\-"How about just this little bit of land here in the east?"  
\-"How about that Volodomir? I think you should take it. It would make it much easier. We can drop the deal down to 200 billion if you do."  
\-"Well ok" =&gt; Putin leaves, USA doesn't have to fight and gets free 200 billion.

torrso

3rd party nations mediating war negotions is not at all uncommon.

bitbindichotomy

It's not entirely new, though. In 1906 Teddy Roosevelt was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for brokering a peace treaty between Russia and Japan.

tumunu

Because is US vs Russia disguised as Ukraine vs Russia.

Involved? We are selling Ukraine out 

I've never been so sickened to be an American

MaineHippo83

Well they hate each other for one. But mainly its cause Ukraine is just US / Russia proxy war.

gxfrnb899

It's a common practice throughout history for a third party to be an intermediary for two nations at war. The French helped with the American Revolution. I forget which war the German Empire mediated for us and someone else, but yeah, third-party mediation is a long time thing.

Matrimcauthon7833

Because we're paying for Ukraine's defense.  When you foot the bill, you get a say.

Zealousideal-Sir3483

Well there is a number of reasons why Russia would rather negotiate with the US than Ukraine. Russia’s position is that the Ukrainian constitution does not actually postpone presidential elections during martial law, and therefore Zelensky is not the true president. Their fear is if they sign something with him, and then people recognize their position that he isn’t legitimate, then the treaty would be illegitimate too. 

They also cite a presidential decree Zelensky made early on which supposedly banned Ukraine from negotiating with Russia. Zelensky recently said that it applied to everyone *except* himself, but the Russians don’t believe that. 

Also, the Russians cite negotiations back in March 2022, where they claim the Ukrainians broke their word and took advantage of good faith withdrawals around Kyiv. They say because of this, they can’t trust the Ukrainians. 

The final reason is because they claim Ukraine is just a puppet of the US and therefore they would rather negotiate with the puppet master, who they think is actually on their level.

You can say these reasons are nonsense all you want, but these are the reasons the Russians give.

Potaeto_Object

I think Putin wants or needs Ukraine on Russia's side in their political/economic conflicts but Ukraine doesn't really seem like they're interested. It might not have been a good idea to start a war if the US is supporting Ukraine but considering the situation Putin is in, maybe he's losing his mind or something wondering about how Ukraine joining NATO or becoming an ally of the US would affect Russia in the long term. I don't know what kind of negotiating he can do without threatening the country.

powerwentout

Trump will write and sign an Executive Order and there will instant peace and prosperity

OnHandsKnees

How the war gets resolved will impact America national security either way. Whoever ends up on top in the war is going to be in control of a lot of natural resources, farmland, and a border close to NATO, so it's in our interest to be at the negotiating table, and since America can keep the war going or end it by continuing or stopping the flow of weapons to Ukraine we can demand a seat and have a big influence on the terms.

surgeryboy7

US vows to never allow Ukraine into NATO- Russia retreats war over. You’re welcome. But this time we keep our promise

Tippy4OSU

Because It is assumed that Ukraine automatically loses the war and orcs marching into Lviv if US completely stops aid and lifts all sanctions against Russia and put sanctions on EU countries that decided to continue support Ukraine.

LurkingWeirdo88

DisclosE2020agency

Because we're the world superpower and the one military in the world you absolutely don't want to go to war with. The US has a much more intimidating bark because a war with the US would ultimately end in a Russian defeat. Ukraine doesn't have that sort of negotiating power.

ThrowRAthfj

You normally are going to have a third party involved in these types of negotiations.  Without it the conversation will be   
Zalensky : "We would appreciate it if you stop bombing us"  
Putin: "We will stop bombing when you give us your country"  
Zalensky: "No"  
Putin: "No"  
Zalensky: "Well fuck"

Zalensky is in no position to be able to apply any meaningful pressure on Russia so Russia won't listen to him.

NCC1701-Enterprise

cause it is a US [proxy](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1inxe4m/why_is_the_us_even_involved_in_negotiating_the/mcfoikb/) war, ukraine was used as cannon fodder for western interests.

sanriver12

President Theodore Roosevelt won the Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating peace between Russia and Japan. 

US Presidents have a lot of pull to get this kind of stuff done... if they want.

RiffRandellsBF

Ever heard of mediation? Do you think divorcing couples who hate each other can work things out successfully?

klystron88

Busy-Direction8617

How else can president Musk and his sidekick extort the precious raw materials from the Ukraine?

CharlieSixFive

capodecina2

Think of it this way. It is like Germany and Italy negotiating peace in France and England in WWII.

Obviously Russia will get a much more favorable deal since Trump is on Russia's side.

Sea-Pomelo1210

trump is putins ally and putin thinks he can get the best outcome through trump

Mustang_Dragster

Its like when you're young and in school and you ask your best friend to go tell someone you think they're cute and ask if they like you. Obviously you don't go do it yourself.

Hugzzzzz

Well, for starters, Russia has no intention or desire to negotiate with Ukraine because Russia wants Ukraine to be gone. Their whole goal is hostile takeover at best, genocidal reset at worst. This is the reason Ukraine can't just surrender and give Russia what they want. Russia wants them dead. So it's literally a war of survival for Ukraine. Russia quite literally has zero issues killing everyone in Ukraine if they have to.

The only thing stopping them from doing exactly that is that the Ukraine forces are backed by superior American weaponry.  Now, ideally, we wouldn't be involved with negotiations at all since it's our guns keeping the Russians out, but powerful people in high places usually can't help but stick their noses where it doesn't belong. In a perfect world, the EU would be handling the negotiations since they're, you know, in Europe where the conflict is.

Greenfire32

Unfortunately because neither Putin nor Trump care about the interests of Ukraine. They need to make a deal with each other

fedeita80

Putin sees Zelenskyy as a clown in his own words and an illegitimate leader. The US support is crucial even when considering Euro contribution. I’m my eyes it’s a strategic move by both sides but the in the coming years Trump will be seeking to claim peacemaker status.

commradd1

Ukraine passed a law, maybe a year ago, that prohibits any official of their’s negotiating with russia about anything.

seapeple

Also, if putin allows trump to "talk him down" it allows him to stop the war which is crippling russia without hurting his pride. 


It also makes trump look good, which putin wants, as he is rumoured to be the trousers wearer in that relationship. Meaning he can influence what goes on in the states and keep the country on its track to fall apart. 

Its tactical. Trump has no actual bargaining power or influence on putin. Putin will allow it to be framed that way though. 

Hes a tyrant, but he is a sneaky fucker too.

Haunted_Entity

TheDepressedSolider

You just really don’t want Trump to get credit for ending that war.

liverandonions1

Because Trump is Putin’s minion and they have to coordinate the divi up plan

Mrekrek

Ok_Play2364

because we don't want a regional war to escalate to a global war. We had two world wars in 30 years at the start of the 20th century and none since thanks to a system of international relations that includes the us taking an active role in negotiating conflicts.

Dry_Jury2858

The better question is why is the USA involved with anything that has to do with Ukraine. All it's done is increased tension between us and Russia

Because Ukraine is USAs proxy. Why negotiate with the proxy?

Trump feels because he holds the purse strings on military aid he can decide what happens to Ukraine. 

gomurifle

Follow the $$: Ukraine already bought n paid for…

https://tlio.org.uk/war-and-t

Because the main enemy Russia is fighting is NATO through a proxy war. US is the defacto leader of NATO. 

solvento

Putin and Zelensky are directly negotiating, with explosive devices.  Surrender/GTFO.

Silence_1999

Because the rest of the EU don't have the balls to fix their problems in their own backyard. Do they always need Big Daddy US to sort out the mess those toddlers did in Europe?

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